Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:31:40 +0200 To: *Arithmetic Extract mailing list*From: Patrick Asselman Subject: Arithmetic Extract week 15 & 16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_893075500==_" Sender: owner-arithmetic@lists.Stanford.EDU Precedence: bulk X-Status: Status: RO --=====================_893075500==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ****************************************** * Extract of the Arithmetic mailing list * * Compiled by PAtrick Asselman * ****************************************** If you wish to stop receiving the Arithmetic Extracts, send a note to Majordomo@lists.Stanford.EDU and put in the BODY of your message the following: unsubscribe arithmetic All Arithmetic Extracts are archived at: http://www.stanford.edu/~ccytsao/arithmetic/archives/extracts/ --=====================_893075500==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="extract_98w15-16.txt" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In This Extract ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Releases: - when i'm thinking about you Other News: - results of the poll - cool new web stuff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Releases ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: earthlink.net!sesor Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 14:52:20 -0700 Subject: Re: My Poll results & lyrics > does anyone have any idea if or when the "when i'm thinking about > you" single will be out? It won't. The record companies have dropped all support for Static & Silence and that includes singles. Although I don't understand this because we were also told that the band may tour this Summer. As I understood it, tours are also considered support for releases but maybe this one isn't that and they (the band, management and the labels) feel that we deserve to see them live again to atone for the years of abandonment. Yeah right. - John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other News ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: earthlink.net!sesor Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 19:18:38 -0700 Subject: My Poll results Juuuust in case anyone is interested in reading the results of my little Arithmetic poll, here they are. There really were no surprises but there are some interesting results... The Arithmetics voted: 1.) Which is the Sundays' "worst" song? [I've listed the songs with the greatest number of votes first.] None whatsoever (1 vote) Your Eyes (won by far!) Another Flavour/Leave This City (tie) Folk Song What Do You Think? (the rest only got one vote each) A Certain Someone God Made Me Hideous Towns I Can't Wait Life & Soul Love Summertime When I'm Thinking About You 2.) Which is the Sundays' "best" song? [I've listed the songs with the greatest number of votes first.] Goodbye (by far) Here's Where the Story Ends (close second) You're Not the Only One I Know (close third) Blood On My Hands I Won Don't Tell Your Mother I Won Joy Wild Horses My Finest Hour (the rest with one vote each) Cry I Feel Monochrome On Earth Through the Dark When I'm Thinking About You 3.) Which is the Sundays' "best" album? Blind (won by a landslide) RWA Static & Silence (lost by a LOT!) 4.) Which is the Sundays' "worst" album? Static and Silence (another landslide) None/Blind (tie) RWA (two votes) 5.) At this point, do you feel that the future of the band is bright or bleak? Bright (basically everyone says "bright as long as they don't wait so long to release another LP") Bleak (six votes) 6.) On RWA, at the time, did you think that David was trying to play like Johnny Marr? It was close but "yes" won by a ratio of 10 to 7. 7.) Pick one guitarist that Harriet would be better or more interesting with than David. the Edge/Johnny Marr (tie) "Me" got three votes (the rest with one vote each) Tuck Andress (Tuck & Patti) Simon Austin (Frente) Bernard Butler David Gilmore Robin Guthrie James Iha (Smashing Pumpkins) Wyclef Jean Ira Kaplan from Yo La Tengo Johnny Lang Nick McCabe Neil from Slowdive Jimmy Page Vini Reilly from The Durutti Column David Roback (Mazzy Star) Slash Pat Smear Mr. Spoon from Button Moon the guy from Third Eye Blind (Sorry, but this guy is a dickhead) 8.) Pick one singer that David might be better or more interesting with than Harriet. Morrissey (won by far) Karen Peris (the Innocence Mission)/Nina (the Cardigans) (tie) (the rest with one vote each) Brett Anderson Bjork Cilla Black Andrea Corr of the Corrs Ian Curtis (Joy Division) Mary Fahl Liz Fraser (Cocteau Twins) Toni Halliday Julianna Hatfield "Keyboard Chick from New Order" John Lydon Madonna Sarah McLachlan Brad Roberts (Crash Test Dummies) Hope Sandoval Sinead O'Connor the singer from McCarthy Dean Wareham (Luna) Thom Yorke 9.) Harriet Wheeler - sex appeal or no sex appeal? [Think about this one and be honest] Sex appeal won by a ratio of 20 to 7 Plus one gay male says that Harriet's got so much sex appeal, even HE's attracted to her. 10.) David Gavurin - sex appeal or no sex appeal? 11 people said that he's got no sex appeal. 7 of you said that he does have sex appeal. Most of you gave the "I don't want to say because I'm afraid people will think I'm homosexual" answer. 11.) Harriet Wheeler & David Gavurin - as individuals (not as the Sundays), piss boring or misunderstood? All got votes, but "misunderstood" won by far. 12.) Harriet Wheeler - not very bright or just underestimated? This one incited all sorts of responses from "what?!" to "..." but "underestimated" won by far. 13.) Do you think the Sundays sound will develop more or have they found their "sound"? "Develop more" won by a ratio of 10 to 4. 14.) Which band absolutely MUST cover a Sundays tune? Which band and which tune? [I just listed your choices. Some got more than one vote but I kept the list in alphabetical order by the artists' last names.] Air Miami -- You're not the only one that I know Erykah Badu -- Medicine Cocteau Twins -- Turkish, Blood On My Hands the Corrs -- A Certain Someone the Cure -- Blood On My Hands, Hideous Towns Curve -- She the Durutti Column -- Skin & Bones Juliana Hatfield -- I Kicked a Boy, Another Flavour Innocence Mission -- anysongtheywanted Jewel -- Folk Song, 24 Hours Mary Lou Lords -- Folk Song Mazzy Star -- Here's Where the Story Ends, Joy Natalie Merchant -- Summertime Morrissey -- Cry, Love My Bloody Valentine -- On Earth, Goodbye Beth Orton -- Folk Song Pavement -- Goodbye Portishead -- Love, Joy Red House Painters -- any tune Sonic Youth -- What do you think?, I Kicked a Boy the Stone Roses -- Don't Yell Your Mother the Verve -- I Feel 15.) Who has the better voice, Thom Yorke or Harriet Wheeler? Both got votes but Harriet won by a landslide. One person voted "me". (laughs) 16.) Should the Sundays support the Wu-Tang Clan on their next tour? It was close but most of you voted "yes". Although most of the "yes" answers also went on to say how horrible it'd be. A lot of you chose not to answer this question. I don't blame you. It was a pretty fucking stupid question to ask. 17.) If Harriet Wheeler and Toni Halliday (Curve) suddenly acquired equal superhuman strength and fought, who would win? Strangely enough, we've a tie! One person voted "Sarah McLachlan". I thought that was funny. 18.) Do you prefer David's monotune acoustic strumming & jangle of old (Here's Where the Story Ends, Can't Be Sure, Medicine) or his newer electric muscle (Another Flavour, So Much)? Both received votes but David's jangle of old murdered the other choice. A couple of you made me realize that I completely overlooked the atmospheric guitar from Blind. That's true. Strangely, that's my preference as well. I must've forgotten. Sorry about that. 19.) Do you feel that the Sundays "owe" it to their fans to do more shows? If no, do you feel that they've ANY "obligation" at all to their fans who've stuck by them, some from as far back as '89? It was close but most of you voted that they do NOT owe we beleaguered fans a thing. ...I also think one or two of you said you wouldn't care if Harriet shit on your heads either. ...er, :) 20.) Which are your favorite Sundays song lyrics? You're Not the Only One I Know (won by a landslide) Summertime Goodbye/I Feel/Life Goes On/My Finest Hour (tie) (all the rest with one vote each) Blood On My Hands Can't Be Sure Cry Homeward I Kicked a Boy Joy Monochrome On Earth So Much 21.) What's your favorite line from a Sundays song? [I believe a few of you got some lyrics incorrect but Patrick, I agree with you! I still say it's "job"! I'd argue with HARRIET on this!! :) ] "Just give me an easy life and a peaceful death." (multiple votes) "Just give me an easy live and a peaceful day. Yeah! Yeah!" "if i had anything in the world for free, I wouldn't share it with anyone else but me" "i keep hoping you are the same as me......." "So kill me with love" "Hell on my own, hell here on my own" "so, we drove out west to the seaside and we gladly decided to stay but after two hours wandering outside, the sea air drove them away" "two peas in the same pod, yes we are, have i read to much fiction, or is this how it happens?" "you live and you learn you're invisible" "I keep hoping you are the same as me and I'll send you letters and come to your house for tea" "the finest hour, i've ever known, was finding a pound in the underground" "Laughingly I take the fevered applause of the people by the riverside/ I'm walking, walking on water/ God knows why" "You've stolen my heart, and it hurts me to remember" "river of raincoats and a forest of faces" "The thought of heaven couldn't drag me from the path when I'm wandering here alone." "these days of obsession, delirious & uncertain still & will they always stay uncertain still?" "If you do, don't you know, but I don't mind oh no no..." "Live for a job and the perfect behind." "Its perfectly fine to sleep in a chair from monday till Saturday" "those stories were a good read, they were dumb as well" "Don't go imagining that time is medicine." 22.) Which is your favorite MUSIC (not vocals) in a Sundays song? Goodbye Can't Be Sure/Cry/Don't Tell Your Mother/Here's Where the Story Ends/Joy/She/Summertime/Through the Dark (all tied) (all the rest with one vote each) A Certain Someone Blood On My Hands Turkish Wild Horses You're not the only one I know 23.) Which are your favorite VOCALS (vocal melody) in a Sundays song? Goodbye Blood On My Hands I Won/Nothing Sweet/On Earth/Summertime (tie) Turkish/24 Hours (tie) (all the rest with one vote each) Don't Tell Your Mother I Feel I Kicked a Boy Love My finest hour Noise Through the Dark - "Hellllloooooo..." When I'm Thinking About You Wild Horses 24.) Have the Sundays matured, become boring and uninspired or neither? It was very closely split between "Matured" and "Neither". "Uninspired" received no votes. 25.) On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the highest, please rate each album: - Reading Writing and Arithmetic -- average of 8.8 - Blind -- average 8.7 - Static & Silence -- average 7.3 It seems that on the whole, the Arithmetics are VERY deeply devoted to this band which I find a curious thing. Oh well. Most artists dream of having fans like that. I hope Harriet and David appreciate it more than it seems they do. -John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Check out the new info at http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~ccytsao/arithmetic/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ Thank you for reading this week's Arithmetic Extract ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Extract compiled by Patrick Asselman ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --=====================_893075500==_-- ========================================================================== This message was posted through the Stanford campus mailing list server. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message body of "unsubscribe arithmetic" to majordomo@lists.stanford.edu