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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971123195136.006b060c@10.100.100.100> X-Sender: patrick@10.100.100.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 19:51:36 +0100 To: *Arithmetic Extract mailing list* From: Patrick Asselman Subject: Arithmetic Extract week 47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_880307496==_" Sender: owner-arithmetic@lists.Stanford.EDU Precedence: bulk Status: RO --=====================_880307496==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Arithmetic Extract week 47 --=====================_880307496==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="extract_wk47.txt" ****************************************** * Extract of the Arithmetic mailing list * ****************************************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In This Extract ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Albums Info - latest chart info Tour Dates & Info - equipment update - more gear info - NME bit - Seattle show review - another Seattle show review - review on the Fillmore show - San Fransisco show review Interviews and Reviews - Tour specifics - Billie Gavurin - Mayan theatre show and more... - review from San Diego Union-Tribune Other News - Guitar tab for So Much - tab for God Made Me - tab for My finest hour - tab for Wild Horses - tab for Here's Where The Story Ends - tab for Goodbye - tab for Monochrome - some more web links ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Albums Info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Craig Parker Subject: Latest US Chart Info First,here's the US chart info for Static & Silence from the Nov. 29th,1997 issue of Billboard: Top 200 Albums chart: plummets 20 spots to #127 in it's 8th week. And here's the latest US chart info for "Summertime" from the Nov. 29th,1997 issue of Billboard: Adult Top 40 : up 2 spots to #19 with a bullet in it's 7th week. Rock Big Picture chart: drops 4 spots to #30 in it's 12th week. Modern Rock Tracks chart: drops 1 spot to #16 in it's 13th week. Hot 100 Airplay chart: holds at #53 with a bullet in it's 10th week. Craig ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tour Dates & Info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: Dave Gauverin equipment update Hey I just realized what those two pedals were at Dave's feet that I didn't recogognize at the show. I saw them at the guitar shop today. The Echoplex was a "clone machine" pedal, which Robin Guthrie of the Cocteau Twins used to use on his early albums. It gets a neat tremolo chorus type sound. I think Dave used it play the piano solo-type parts... The Sound Tank was an Ibanez Echo Mahine pedal. Good luck getting those sounds! Brandon Milner bmilner@netcom(dot)com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: "John G. Given" Subject: SF Show details For the gearheads-- Mystery Guitar Man plays a Gibson SG Electric and what looks like a Breedlove acoustic. His tone is thin and cheezy. He definitely plays second fiddle to David most of the time. David was playing a sunburst ES-335 (stop tailpiece, block inlays), a cream colored Tele, and a weird flavor of Tele I've never seen before (natural wood, odd shaped pickguard, humbuckers.) He had at least one Vox AC-30 (probably rented) and maybe a second. I couldn't get a good look at his effects, but he was stomping on something that sounded GREAT! Some sort of Univibe effect, somewhere between a chorus and a phase. If anyone can figure out what this is, let me know. Regarding his gear problems--he keeps a tuner, not plugged in to the effects chain, on top of his amp. He was tuning between most songs. The real problems didn't start until the second encore. Everyone was looking at the amp, but to me it sounded like he had a pedal halfway plugged in somewhere (high, oscillating whistle). It took them several songs to hit their stride, but when they did, it was great. The new songs sounded better than the old, I thought (Joy, in particular, was way too slow.) John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: aol.com!TimNich0ls Subject: Vinnie was sacked! NME quoted a band spokesman as saying that Vinnie Lamie was sacked by David and Harriet for announcing a few days before the tour started that he was still interested in work with other bands and consequently might not appear at some of the gigs they hed planned. Harriet and David "felt this behaviour was unacceptable". I can't imagine either of them being so authoritative as to sack someone. Thanks for the fantastic Seattle reviews. Did any of you meet eachother? Tim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Michael Murray Subject: Seattle show review II Hello All: Well, I wanted to be the first to tell you about the first American show in Seattle, but Brandon Milner beat me to it!... and did such a good job that it leave with little more to contribute. Still, I'd like to pass along some additional comments here. So, if you are trying to avoid reviews at this point, don't read on! The SUNDAYS November 15, 1997 The Moore Theater Seattle, Washington The Venue/the Crowd The charming old theater packed in every last seat, but at a capacity of only 1400, the atmosphere was pretty intimate. From what I could tell, there were a lot of devoted and eager true SUNDAYS fans on hand, as well as a fair bit of new fans there to hear "summertime," I think. I also heard a few English/Brit accents here and there. I had a very nice balcony seat -- up about as close as possible to the railing, and a perfectly unobstructed view. BUT... I really longed to be stage-side on the floor. Opening Act Garrison Starr. She said she was new and she was nervous. She was actually great. I agree with Brandon Milner's previous review. To me, she sounded a bit like Shawn Colvin. After the show, I got a free promo disc of her's. After listening to it, I've decided that she sounds better solo with her acoustic guitar than with the rest of her band. SUNDAYS show. After what seemed like much too long of a delay, and having to sit through numerous loud audience chants for the show to start, the house lights finally went down and the fans went crazy. The sound of a what I think was a Frank Sinatra song (Come Fly With Me?) filled the theater. Finally, the SUNDAYS walked out in the dark and took their positions. Everybody was ready to play except David, who seemed to take a long time. It was kind of strange because the Sinatra song was blaring and they were just standing there, as if ready to play but unable to. Finally, the music ended, stage lights came up just a bit, and Harriet politely apologized for the delay, remarking that it was not intentional. Harriet looked great -- pretty much the same. She had casual blue denim overalls over a short sleeved black top. Her overalls ended at the top of her bog yellow boots. David was casual in black t shirt, dark jeans and boots. They opened with Can't Be Sure. Patch was back on drums. :) It was SO GOOD to hear them play again! But... they seemed a bit off at first. I'm no technical expert, but it seemed like Harriet was struggling a few times to find her place, as was David??. And the mix! From where I was it sounded quite out of balance. The bass was very loud, but I could not hear enough of Harriet. This seems to contradict what Brandon Milner noted in his review, but we both agree that the sound was not right. I heard several people yell out suggestions like "Turn down the bass!" and "more voice" and "we can't hear you, Harriet." I guess I kind of expected them to sound a bit rough after all this time away. The next song was "What Do You Think." Also sounded a bit rough -- they seemed nervous to me. Nothing like the last time I saw them on their Blind tour. After this song, Harriet remarked: "blimy." She then said something like "it has been such a long time since we've done this -- 4 years I think." Next was "Cry." Harriet hummed the string parts you here in the middle of this track -- nice effect. They seem to be warming up a bit now. Homeward was next. I really like this song. And, as Brandon Milner has already mentioned, they have an unknown second guitarist playing rhythms and freeing David up to jingle jangle all over the neck. After Homeward, David spent a long time getting his guitar and amps and effects, etc. ready for the next song. This was to be a recurring pattern throughout the whole show. He fiddles and fiddles with his instruments -- intently focused on getting them just right. He never looks out at the crowd -- just concentrates on his playing, which, by the way, is excellent. Anyway, during these long delays between songs, Harriet seemed nervous. She is basically shy and reserved anyway, from what I can tell. So, she either did not want to say anything or did not know what to say. The audience WANTED to TALK with her! It was great. She remarked again what a "rather long time" it had been, after which someone yelled out something like "imagine what its been like for us!" At this, Harriet genuinely laughed (not just her nervous giggle). She also thanked people for standing up in front, and said that they had been worried they might be playing to a bunch of people all sitting down. Cute. I Kicked A Boy was Next, followed by Medicine. They were sounding better and better now. In between songs, the audience yelled out comments like "play more often!" and "We miss you!" and "We love you!", and "Harriet, what are you doing after the show." She giggled and said, jokingly, that she can't hear anyway because she has ear phones in. A big bouquet of flowers was passed forward to Harriet. She said thank you and placed them at on the stage, where they remained for the rest of the show. When I'm Thinking About You was next, and was great. Then came Leave The City. In between, a few folks yelled out to David: "Hello David", to which he barely looked up while scurrying about getting his guitar ready. Harriet jokingly remarked that he "doesn't have time for that know" because he has got "so much to do." Someone yelled out "You ROCK, David!" Cheers followed. David kept right on busily moving from pedal effect to amp and back, again seemingly obsessed with the technical aspects and not one to bask in the spot light. Speaking of lights. I was disappointed with the lighting. It was generally dark. When a spotlight was cast down, it tended to glow on Patch and leave Harriet in the dark. Several people around me (and me as well) really wanted to see more light on Harriet. Next was Another Flavour. This song, which was not at all a favorite of mine on Static and Silence, was really very good live. It was uptempo and basically allowed them to rock a bit. Very well received, as Brandon Milner had also indicated. Next was Your Eyes, followed by Monochrome. I really liked Monochrome. David used some cool wah effect, but not overdone. Also, because of the other guitar player strumming smooth rhythms out on an acoustic (mostly), David was able to do some extra parts. On Monochrome, he filled in very nicely for the horn parts you head on the CD. Nice effect. The next song was the first real magic moment for me. They performed My Finest Hour so well, it was like going back in time to when I last saw them. Harriet was clear and strong and confident. At the end of this song (as you know), when all is stripped away except David's strumming/jangling and Harriet's VERY high pitched wordless notes, it really was magical. Harriet was dean on and SO beautiful. I got shivers, and when this ended the place went mad! They were really sounding good now. They ended this set with Goodbye. This too was just incredible. Harriet looked happy now and not nervous at all. During the verses when she did not have vocal lines, she stepped back from the mic a few feet (which she clung too the rest of the night), and danced a bit to everyone's delight (understated slaps on her swaying hips, etc.) We loved to see her happy like that. The demands for the first encore were loud and furious. When they finally came back out, they launched right in to She. This was very good. High energy and a lot of fun for everyone. After that, people applauded as when, for the first time that night, we saw David put down his electric and pick up an acoustic guitar. It was like, just the sight of him picking up his acoustic made everyone happy with anticipation. Me too! And we were right to be excited about this, because they played Here's Where The Story Ends and it sounded SO GOOD! Lots of people said to me after the show that they liked this song best because the instruments were finally stripped down to a sound level that was perfect to match and showcase Harriet's sweet voice. I think I agree. This then ended the first encore. We demanded more, but I was not sure if we would get it at first. After about what seemed like 10 minutes (but was probably less), they came back out again. They first performed Joy, which was simply brilliant in every way. Then, they ended the whole show with Summertime. It's funny, I had completely forgotten about this song, and it is there new hit! They don't even need this song for a great show now. But anyway, even though this one is not my favorite from their new stuff, it went really well live. Dave pulled off the slide effect well. And then, just like that, they were gone. Everyone was generally buzzing. I did. however, continue to hear people complaining about the sound mix. But most folks I talked to were impressed. Well, sorry to ramble on like that, but just thought I'd get this as I remembered it occurring, rather than spend the time to editorialize my comments and this review. Hope you all get to see them and you enjoy the show as much as I did! Mike Murray mmurray@igc.apc.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Dan Vancini Subject: Sundays concert in Seattle, 11-15-97 Hello to everyone on the list. this is my first submission and I'd like to write about the Sundays concert last night here in Seattle that kicked off their US tour. I'd like to include a lot of details so if long messages annoy you, you've got your warning. First, the set list. I don't remember the exact order of all the songs but I do remember they opened with a sample from each album in this order: Can't be sure What do you think Cry The rest of it went something like this: medicine homeward when I'm thinking about you I kicked a boy I can't wait my finest hour another flavour monochrome leave this city your eyes First encore: She Joy goodbye Second encore: Here's where the story ends Summertime I'm sure I don't have the order entirely right, but that's the gist of it. This was their first show of their US tour and they definitely have some kinks to work out, but they sounded great and the crowd loved it none the less. There were a lot of long pauses between songs as David worked out problems with his guitar pedals (including a constant low-level feeedback hum) and took care of tuning. Harriet was great chatting with the crowd, but said, in her own words, "I suck at between songs." People in the crowd were yelling "We love you" "Welcome back," and "It's been too long, come back before you leave the US" all night long. One guy I was standing next to in the crowd asked Harriet for a drink of her water and she tossed him a whole bottle without a second thought. When Harriet retreated back upstage, people started yelling "Hi Dave," "We love you Dave" etc. to which Dave replied, "I'm busy, sorry can't talk now." There were several questions about their 2 year old daughter Billie (Harriet was really amused that people were asking about her), one request for a Smiths cover song, and I think the most requested song was "Folk Song" with "More" a close second and "Skin and Bones" running a close third (none of these were played). Harriet said she appreciated the fact that people were standing because they weren't prepared to open to a sitting crowd, and I think that they didn't quite expect the huge amount of positive adulation the crowd put out that night. There were a lot of real quiet pauses between a lot of the songs but the energy never diminished as the crowd was definitely captivated by a band that many of them had waited more than 5 years to see. They were not the least bit disappointing and I think that most people in the crowd took advantage of the extra time between songs by viewing it as more time to spend with the band (the entire show lasted, I think, about 75 minutes). The audience clearly loved the opening act - a solo guitarist/singer by the name of Garrison Starr whose voice rivals Harriet's in range and intensity, whose style was a perfect preface for this band - enough to buy up all of her cd's before we were 10 minutes into the intermission. I think they also have some work to do with the lighting. It was a very dark stage and I got the impression that it was unintentionally so. Fortunately for me, I happened to be right in front of the stage, but I can't help but wonder if the people sitting up in the top balcony of this 1400 seat theatre had difficulty seeing them (david was particularly dark). But again, this crowd was happy enough to see the band (or so it seemed to me) that the kinks really didn't dampen the experience. As Harriet put it after the 3rd song: "In about 3 more shows we'll have this down perfect, but for now you'll get the three and a half hour version." Some notable changes include a 5th member - a rhythm guitarist who was never introduced, but having him there was a wise move as it added a lot of richness to most of the newer songs, and despite the fact that Raygun magazine reported they were auditioning drummers before the tour, Patrick Hannan was behind the kit again. And despite the many rumours I heard about Paul Brindley leaving, he was on bass so the band seems to have regrouped for the tour, although it's only Dave and Harriet's faces that you'll see on the publicity posters. I last saw them in 1993 in Minneapolis, and I have to say that they were a lot tighter in their presentation then, but I think Harriet's voice is stronger then ever and the crowds seem a lot more dedicated to them now (needless to say, this was just about the most polite audience for a rock show anyone could imagine). Anyone else who saw the show in Seattle, please write in with whatever you think I left out about the show that's worth mentioning - i.e. the guy in the middle of the floor who seemed about ready to sacrifice a ram in Harriet's honor right then and there. For those of you who will have the chance to catch them on this limited tour, you won't be sorry. With the birth of Billie and the on-set of family life for the couple, it's likely they won't tour too regularly in the future, but one can always hope. If you see any of their future dates, please write in. I for one would love to hear how their set changes, if at all. Anyway, to conclude, it was a great show, and I hope this gives you an idea of what you might hear if you get a chance to see them this show e-mail responses to dvancini@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: sfo.com!xanthra Subject: Just back from the Fillmore! Hi all! Just back from one of the most incredible shows I've ever seen in my life... My head is still reeling from how cool it all was... I tried to look for aritmeticians after the show, but it was just too much of a mob scene (sorry) The set list seemed to be pretty much the same as the Seattle show... but this show seemed wrought, from beginning to end, with technical difficulties... I couldn't have bben happier about this fact... I was not ten feet away from Harriet (and about fifteen from Dave) and through every technical diff. it was up to Harriet to entertain the crowd... and entertain she did... She fielded questions left and right, (a couple from me and my friends!), she told a joke "What is the smelliest thing in the world?" Didn't quite get the punchline, but it was something about a bottom. (Changing too many didies, methinks) She apologized, laughed, and was genuinely as charming as I had ever imagined she could be... I made direct eye contact with her, as did my friends on several occasions, and Dave gave me a smile and a nod during Summertime. The highlight of the show, which had 3 encores!!!, had to be at one point when the technical difficulties were way out of hand, and Dave switched to the acoustic guitar... I finally heard Turkish... that hauntingly beautiful song (althoughI had to be told by someone more obsessed than I, what it actually was) Someone else will have to help out with what some of the other extra songs they played were... I agree with the seattle folks that My finest Hour seemed to be where they were really hitting their stride... Luckily, all the delays brought the show up to 1hr 45 min or longer. The crowd absolutely loved it, from where I stood, and she seemed to be having a great time. (as did Dave) She introduced the extra guitarist as a "long time friend" but I didn't catch the name, and she introduced "Patrick" on the drums as well... I know there were tons of you there, so feel free to fill in the rest. For those of you on the grander obsession scale like I am, Harriet was wearing a two piece dress kind of deal. I was black, sorta velvety with a pattern befitting a really elegant couch... very beautiful... and yes, she did have those bright yellow combat boot on as well. She was wearing some beautiful jewelry, (as was Dave) and she was extremely expressive with her hands as she sang. The baby is doing fine... back at the hotel... you get the picture... I've rambled long enough, but I know the rest of you yet to go will have a blast... I didn't get a set list, but I DID get her water bottle, directly following the show! I can now say I schared a drink with Harriett!!! For those of you curious, she was drinking Cinnamon-Apple tea up there... I asked the guy who got the cup. Ciao.... Xanthra... in Sundays heaven ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: well.com!deucer (Bruce Overby) Subject: S.F. Show (& Newest Fan!!) Well, I'm just back from the S.F. show, and since I had to leave the city early and therefore missed the post-show arithmetic gathering, I thought I'd take this chance to maybe be the first reviewer of the the S.F. show. I had to leave early because I brought my sister Cynthia to the show, and she's got 19 learning- disabled kids to face at 8 tomorrow morning, so I thought I'd show some mercy and get her home early. Anyway, my impressions...with my usual brevity (snicker): Overall, the show was awesome. This was my first, so you have to take that into account, but I just really thought the performance was outstanding. Certainly one of the best concerts I've ever seen. (Which is saying something, since I've been going to concerts for a little over 20 years. :-) Harriet's voice was clear as a bell. Her speaking voice surprised me, because I expected it to sound much higher-pitched, but the songs just came out flawlessly. David was having a bit of trouble with his equipment, which caused some unseemly delays between songs. (Poor Harriet. Not the grand public speaker, she, and he left her with *so* much time to fill!) Anyway, I noticed that his effects seemed to be set to emulate the S&S sound (which is, of course, much different from the RWA and Blind sounds), so the RWA and Blind songs sounded very different, which was a little weird. But this only detracted a few times. High points of the show for me: - "Another Flavour" As I expected (for those of you who remember that one post where I said this), this tune *rocked* in a major way. Much better live than on the disc. - "Summertime" (their closer) After much fumbling with the stubbornly uncooperative equipment, David (and the others as well) pulled off an impeccable version of this song. This will be an indelible memory indeed for me. - The second encore, when David was fumbling with cords, guitars, pedals, etc., and poor Harriet was ad-libbing to the best of her scant abilities in this area, someone from the crowd shouted something to the effect of "You're going home with that guy!?" To which Harriet first laughed hysterically (as did David), and then responded, "Not to worry. I'll be alright." God, what a precious moment. One last comment: Harriet was wearing a long form-fitting skirt and a sleevless top. I only mention this because it's the first time I've ever seen her in anything but jeans. Apologies if I've repeated anything said in the Seattle reviews, which I haven't read yet. Those of you further down the line, get ready man, this one is completely *awesome*!! Bruce ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Interviews & Reviews ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Cynthia C Y Tsao Subject: tour specifics How the crew and band get from one show to the next in North America: bus How Harriet, David, & Billie get from one show to the next in North America: plane Will they tour North America again next year? Depends on the success of this mini-tour. Concert shirts available: Three (L and XL): 1. Black: moon on left pocket. wording: "The SUNDAYS" "cry" 2. Navy blue: Big moon on front. wording: "The SUNDAYS" "static & silence" Moon on back. wording is all cities for tour. 3. Grey: cover of summertime single. :) Cynthia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Cynthia C Y Tsao Subject: Billie Name: Billie Gavurin Age: 2 and 3/4 years Eye color: Hazel/Brown (like David's) Hair color: Harriet's natural hair color *GIGGLE!* (I'll talk more about this in my recount. I'm sure this will spark some interesting discussion...) Christmas gift from mum: Sesame Street umbrella Location during concerts: Hotel room :) Cynthia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: earthlink.net!sesor Subject: Mayan theatre performance and conversations with Harriet Hi everyone. After a few meals and a decent night's rest I feel much better. Here're some more details on last night. Harriet is very down to Earth (as we've heard time and time again). While I was standing outside (before the show) watching the band searching intently for Harriet (I saw everyone else) I waved hello once I did see her and she just calmly asked, "Who are you waving to?" Once I said that it was her, she walked outside to speak with me. I don't want to tell everything about what Harriet and I spoke about since it was semi-private (more private on MY part) and also I don't think it would be proper for me to divulge a personal chat to a bunch of strangers. Here're some more interesting bits for you all to enjoy. I told Harriet that when I spoke with Morrissey a few years back he told me that he didn't think David sounded like Johnny Marr despite the press' writings. I also asked if they were bothered by any of these Smiths-Sundays comparisons since as artists, I figured that they'd want to find their own voice rather than sit in the shadow of another band. Harriet said that they didn't mind the comparisons at all since they weren't really written in a negative light. She also didn't say anything about being flattered either. To tell you the truth, I got the impression that she couldn't give two shits about it either way. One interesting thing that I found out was David actually writes a lot of the lyrics as well. I stupidly forgot to ask her if she plays the guitar. I kind of have a new found respect for David now. I'm a terrible lyricist so I have to bow to David on this one. I told her that she really has the best voice in pop music and she gave me the "I'm not worthy" bow with arms raised. THE PERFORMANCE: The show began really strong and never let up really. I guess the earlier shows really warmed them up because the band were really tight and Harriet... Harriet sang like a dream. Like I've said already, I was REALLY impressed with her performance and that doesn't happen to me often. Even with the expectations I had for her singing I was impressed. I think that says a lot. ....okay, I have to say that David was really good too. I mean he played pretty flawlessly. I just wish there were some more improvisations. We did, however, receive some live show treats which were accoustic versions of some somgs off of S&S. The one song that stands out in my memory is "Homeward". Having it stripped down like that allowed the song and melody to take on a totally different type of energy and it could've backfired on them but didn't. I thought that in a live situation it became very moving and intense. Harriet's singing was perfect. No one could've asked for more and if they did, they'd be expecting too much from one human being. Their finest moment was easily the performance of "Cry". Between both guitarists madly strumming away, Harriet singing like she was trying to save the world, the lights shining brighter and whiter than they ever would be all night and the wing-like design on the backdrop, I couldn't stop the chills. That song sucked all the love out of body and I literally felt ill afterwards because I felt so drained. For all of you who refer to Harriet as angelic, this song was exactly why you say those things. From my angle, those wings on the backdrop lined up perfectly with Harriet's shoulders. I watched in total adoration of this band as they played this song. It looked and felt like an angel from heaven came to Earth to wash the world of its sin through her songs. This song was so powerful, if I focus on it, I can barely recall the rest of the night. I remember after the song being over, I felt like I was floating and I wondered if my feet were touching the ground. Sadly, the band never was as exciting again all night. The only song that even came close was "Joy". Once the closing verse started I got those chills again. As Harriet sang, my mood became very dark and I realized how heavy this song actually was. Both my arms started to feel very weighty. Cynthia, I tried to get you a set list after the show but the security guard was a jerk. Even as other guards were retrieving things off the stage for begging fans, the big oaf that I was unlucky enough to stand in front of kept shrugging his large shoulders saying that it isn't allowed. Stupid. I hope he dies. Oh, and about the tribute album. At the little "party" in the bar after the show, Harriet introduced me to her manager who gave me his phone number and fax number in the UK. He said that he couldn't help us directly because they didn't own the rights to the songs but I think he wants to help which is good because he's obviously got clout. Not that this matters much since I'm growing very impatient and I'm ready to just start this project again. What I'm doing is stupid and it's probably unnecessary. I'm gonna give it a LITTLE more time but if I can't get any answers, fuck it. We're gonna start the ball rolling again. If any Arithmetics were waiting outside in front of the bus for autographs, the Sharpie permanent marker that Harriet was using was mine. She didn't have anything to sign autographs with so I gave her my pen. That was a brand new pen too... Sorry about the length of my post. - Dougmeister ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: webtv.net!BenFrancis (Ben Simpelo) Subject: Review of Sundays concert in San Diego The folowing is a review of The Sundays' November 20 concert in San Diego. Source: The San Diego Union-Tribune, November 22, 1997, page E-6. SUNDAYS' ABSENCE MAKES ART GROW FONDER By David L. Coddon ASSISTANT NIGHT & DAY EDITOR What's a five-year layoff, anyway? No big deal to the Sundays. Questions about how the British foursome's hiatus (for personal and professional reasons) would impact its cult-band popularity were answered with the vigor that greeted its new "Static & Silence" album. Now touring in support of "Static," the Sundays are finding that their audience has outgrown "cult" status. The Sundays certainly have outgrown a club the size of 'Canes in Mission Beach, which was packed shoulder-to-shoulder Thursday night to hear the band from Bristol. Except for one equipment snag (the group briefly had to abandon the stage in the middle of its set so David Gavurin could tend to an electric guitar), the Sundays' performance was a frolic by the beach, as satisfying to the talky all-ages crowd as a sweet treat. Could the Sundays possibly consider changing their name to the Sundaes? Harriet Wheeler, whose warbling vocals are among the most recognizable in alternative music, was and always will be the Sundays' centerpiece. Her note-for-note readings of tunes from all three of the band's albums were delivered with the self-assurance of somebody taping an "Unplugged" episode. The entire band, in fact, was hindered only by Paul Brindley's heavy bass notes, which sometimes washed out Wheeler's voice. Cuts from the ballad-heavy "Static & Silence" fared best, including "Monochrome," "When I'm Thinking About You" and "Homeward." ("Summertime," the Sundays' uncharacteristically giddy hit single, was an inevitable encore selection.) Although the band's debut album, "Reading, Writing and Arithmetic," is 7 years old, its material is still the Sundays' most compelling. The oblique lyrics and ambient musical detours have lost none of their charm, as was clear upon hearing "My Finest Hour," "I Kicked a Boy," "Hideous Towns" and "Can't Be Sure" (the Sundays' first single) again. Poised at the center-stage microphone in her Gen-X overalls, Wheeler herself seemed most enthusiastic about these gems from her band's formative days. It was a shame that, again, Brindley's bass intruded, this time upon "Here's Where the Story Ends." Wheeler's adieu to the crowd---"Thanks for sticking with us"---was a reference to the unscheduled break to fix Gavurin's guitar. But it could just as well have been a salute to Sundays fans who never lost faith during a five-year wait. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other News ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: here's tablature for the "so much" solo Dear List, I had a second so I wrote out the solo in "so much" (track 11 on S&S) note for note in case you folks wanted to try it at home. Someone may want to put this on the Sundays Tab page or submit it to the OLGA archive if the want. Solo to "So Much" - the Sundays transcribed by Brandon Milner A note about the tablature. There are a lot of bends in this solo so I tried to indicate them with / and \ symbols. / = bend up, \ = release bend. So 12/14\12 = bend the string at the 12th fret up so it sounds like the note at the 14th fret (a whole step) and then release the bend back to the 12th fret. you'll get the idea. Unlike some other tab I've seen posted on various sundays pages and in the Olga archive, this is actually correct. Some of those others I've seen are rather innacurate. * 12--------12---12--------------------------------------------------------- 12/14\12--12/14--14\12-10-----14/16\14-12--------------------------------- -------------------------10---------------13-13/15\13-11-9---------11-11-- ----------------------------------------------------------11---9---------- --------------------------------------------------------------8---/11----- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- *sustain 12th fret 1st string while bending B string # 12----12-------------12--------12-----------12/14\--14/16\--------------7-7 12/14---14\12---12/14-----12/14--14\12-10----------------------------6-7--- -------------9---------------------------10-----------------------7-5------ -------------------------------------------------------------5-6-7--------- -----------------------------------------------------------/7-------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- # slide up to seventh fret before playing this run. Enjoy Brandon Milner bmilner@netcom(dot)com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: Tablature for GOD MADE ME "God Made Me" (D. Gauverin & H. Wheeler) from the album "Blind" by the Sundays Tablature & Transcription by Brandon Milner TAB appears below the words sung at the time... Intro (this same sequence is used again towards the end of the song): X02220 (A major) 022000 (e min) X02220 022000 XX5788 355433 (G maj) 022100 022200 (E sus4) x02210 Verse pattern: 002200 -> 000220 Looking for an insult there's a trickle inside my head 002200 000220 seeing it's worth the effort I for- give myself 002220 000220 talks that we had talks that we had are becoming a blur 002200 000220 if only I could love my neigh- bor 320030 200200 CHORUS: because God made me- eee 022100 X02220 X32030 that's all they told me before and how about you? 320033 022100 tablature by Brandon Milner bmilner@netcom.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: TAB for My Finest Hour There is a previous version of the tab for this song in the Olga archive submitted by dck4@cornell.edu (Dennis C. Ko) but it is rather innacurate so I corrected his mistakes and am submitting a whole new transcription. "My Finest Hour" (D. Gauverin & H. Wheeler) by the SUNDAYS as recorded on the album "Reading Writing and Arithmetic" Tablature & Transcription by Brandon Milner (bmilner@netcom.com) ----------------- Chords Used: VERSE E: (079900) F#: (0 9 11 11 0 0) C#: (046600) B: (024400) G-open: (300000) G-High (XXX080) CHORUS E: (079990) B: (XX9970) or (XX9870) A: (X07657) Bmaj9: (XX9879) G6:(320000) A6/9: (540000) ENDING E: (079900) F: (0 9 11 11 0 0) G#: (0 11 13 13 0 0) A: (0 12 14 14 0 0) B: (0 14 16 16 0 0) B-Low (024400) Here's the structure: Intro with verse chords: E E E F# E E E F# VERSE 1 E C# B and the world it shows me up E C# B my clothes they show me up E I never knew this before C# B E the finest hour that I've ever known C# B G-Open G-High was finding a pound on the underground VERSE 2 E C# B and my words came stumbling out E C# B and then I went tumbling out E I've never been hit before C# B E and the finest hour that I've ever known C# B G-Open G-High was finding a pound on the underground CHORUS E B A Bmaj9 and I'll keep hoping you are the same as me and E B A Bmaj9 I'll send you letters and come to your house for tea E B A Bmaj9 we are who we are what do the others know? E B A Bmaj9 but poetry is not for me so show me the way to go G6 A6/9 home E E E F#, E F# G# A B (from the high "ending" chords) VERSE 3 (uses the same chords as the "ending") B E F# G# A B oh-and the words came stumbling out of my mouth B (still...) G-Open G-High I went tumbling out CHORUS E B A Bmaj9 but I'll keep hoping you are the same as me E B A Bmaj9 and I'll send you letters and come to your house for tea E B A Bmaj9 we are who we are what do the others know? E B A Bmaj9 but poetry is not for me so show me the way to go G6 A6/9 oh, I'm going home E B A Bmaj9 but I'll keep hoping you are the only one E B A Bmaj9 yes and I'll send you letters wouldn't it be such fun? E B A Bmaj9 we are who we are whatever the others say? E B A Bmaj9 poetry is not for me & much as I'd like to stay G6 A6/9 E (from the ending chords) oh I just want to go home ENDING Just before the vox play: E E E F# E F# G# A B E F# G# A B you're you're you're too young E F# G# A B should've been you you're you're too young G# A G# A# it should've been you too, you're too, you're too young G# A G# A# it should've been you you you're too young B-Low (024400) you should've been safer saner (?) bribed the judge and then sat down (?) <-- what the heck is she saying? E F# G# A B ooh you're you're you're too young Tablature by Brandon Milner (bmilner@netcom) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: TAB for Wild Horses WILD HORSES written by the rolling stones Notated as played by the Sundays from the album "Blind" Tablature & Transcription by Brandon Milner (bmilner@netcom.com) The intro is: 320033 (G major) X32033 (Cadd2) 320033 X32033 VERSE: 224432 (B min) 320033 (G) 224432 (Bmin) 320033 (G) X02210 (A min) X32010 (C maj) 320033 (G) X00232 (Dmaj) {X00233 X00232 X00232 X00230 } played quick (d suspension) CHORUS: Wi- ild horses couldn't X02210 (a min) X32010 (C) 320033 (G) drag me a- way 1330XX (F) X32010 (C) BRIDGE: There are like 3 acoustic tracks plus more electric here so you can play just about any voicing of these chords and the notes are probably in there somewhere. Fmaj9 (X03010) Cmaj9 (X3001) X 4 the turnaround back into verse is (X320XX) (X540XX) NOW for the 2nd guitar part during the CHORUS: I'm going to butcher the time but listen carefully to the song and you will get it. note the interesting syncopation though (tricky) Play on high 2 strings: Wild... 12-12-12-12| eighth note each 10-10-10-10 1 sixteenth note each 10-10-10-10| 12-12-12-12 Horses... 12--10-10-10-10 then 10-10-10-10 fast, 1 sixteenth each 10--12-12-12-12 12-12-12-12 Couldn't......AWAY 8---7-8---10--7-8---10--7--3--3--3--3- 10--8-10--12--8-10--12--8--5--5--5--5- 0--0--0--0--0- (G string played open) Good luck with my strange rhythmic notating. TAB by Brandon Milner bmilner@netcom.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: Tab for Here's where the story ends THE following TAB is NOT by me, it's by Rob Cabacungan robertc@phoenix.princeton.edu I just thought it was pretty accurate and much better than the over simplified version currently in the OLGA archives. "Here's Where the Story Ends" (D. Gauverin, H. Wheeler) by the Sundays from "Reading writing & Arithmetic" Verse chords: Chorus chords: Gmaj7 320032 G 320003 Cmaj11 032032 C 032010 Gmaj7 Cmaj11 people I know, places I go Gmaj7 Cmaj11 make me feel tongue-tied Gmaj7 Cmaj11 I can see how people look down Gmaj7 Cmaj11 I'm on the outside Gmaj7 Cmaj11 Gmaj7 Cmaj11 here's where the story ends Gmaj7 Cmaj11 Gmaj7 Cmaj11 here's where the story ends *Chorus* [ See Tablature Above ] C it's that little souveneir of a terrible year G which makes my eyes go sore C and whoever would have thought the books that you brought G were all I loved you for G Gmaj7 Cmaj11 places I know, places I go make me feel so tired and I can see how people look down they're on the inside oh here's where the story ends ooh here's where the story ends it's that little souvenir of a terrible year which makes my eyes feel sore and who ever would've thought the books that you brought were all I loved you for oh the devil in me said, go down to the shed I know where I belong but the only thing I ever really wanted to say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong it's that little souvenir of a colorful year which makes me smile inside so I cynically, cynically say, well is that why surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise here's where the story ends ooh here's where the story ends End on Gmaj7. ------------------Tablature for Chorus (e is high E-string) Chords: C C -e-|---------8-----8-----10-----7-----10--------------------------------| -B-|-----------8-----8------8-----8------8------------------------------| -G-|-------0-----0-----0------0-----0-----------------------------------| and it's that little souveneir of a terrible year Chords: G G -e-|---------3-----3-----5-----2-----0---------------------------------| -B-|-----------3-----3-----3-----3-----3-------------------------------| -G-|-------------0-----0-----0-----0-----0-----------------------------| which makes my eyes feel sore that makes me wonder why Chords: C C -e-|---------8-----8-----10-----7-----5---------------------------------| -B-|-----------8-----8------8-----8-----8-------------------------------| -G-|-------------0-----0------0-----0-----0-----------------------------| and i never should have said the books that you read and it's those memories that we shared that make me turn red Chords: G G -e-|---------3-----5-----2-----0-----0---------------------------------| -B-|-----------3-----3-----3-----3-----3-------------------------------| -G-|-------------0-----0-----0-----0-----0-----------------------------| were all i loved you for Chords: G G -e-|-----------2-----2-------2-----2-----------------------------------| -B-|-------------3-----3---3---3-----3---------------------------------| -G-|---------4-----4-----4-------4-----4-------------------------------| surprise, surprise, surprise 2nd Chorus follows same pattern... it's that little souveneir of a terrible year which makes my eyes feel sore and whoever would have thought the books that you brought were all i loved you for and the devil in me said, "go down to the shed" i know where i belong but the only thing i ever really wanted to say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong Extra refrain in 2nd Chorus: Chords: C C -e-|---------8-----8-----10-----10-----10--------------------------------| -B-|-----------8-----8------8------8------8------------------------------| -G-|-------------0-----0------0------0------0----------------------------| and it's that little souveneir of a colorful year which makes me smile inside so i cynically cynically sigh well is that why--surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise Chords: Gmaj7 Cmaj11 Gmaj7 Cmaj11 -e-|----------2----------2----------0----------0-----------------------| -B-|------3-3---3----3-3---3----3-3---3----3-3---0---------------------| -G-|----0----------0----------0----------0-----------------------------| (repeat above till end) here's where the story ends here's where the story ends ... Rob Cabacungan robertc@phoenix.princeton.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: New TAB for "Goodbye" MUCH better What the heck was I thinking!!!??? I was just fiddling around with the song "Goodbye" and I came upon a revelation... The song is in open E tuning! It makes the song SO much easier to play and would be responsible for why David's hands looked like they were barely touching the neck when he played it live. It also makes all the little "fills" fall into place. I haven't worked out all the details yet but this is a whole lot closer than the last version. TUNING (low to high) E B E G# B E That's an E major chord So the intro lead is now... --------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- ----------------------0---------------- ----------------10-12------------------ --------10--12------------------------- --O-12~----------------------(repeats)- When it comes in with the strum part it is now unbelievably simple -0---0---0---0-0---------- -0---0---0---0-0------0--- -0---0---0---0-0-----0--0- -5---7---0---0-0---02----- -5---7---0---0-2-02------- -5---7---0---0-0---------- The verses are exactly the same but without the top 2 strings ringing (the E and B). -------------------------- Oh you... and it's good bye... ----------------------0--- -0---0---0---0-0-----0--0- -5---7---0---0-0---02----- -5---7---0---0-2-02------- -5---7---0---0-0---------- Then there is this little arrpegiated part each dash is a 16th note so the rhythms are right too. -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- X2 -5-----5-----5---4-----4-----4-------- ----5-----5----5----5-----5----5------ -------------------------------------- ---------------------0-----0---------- -------------------0----0------0------ ----0-----0----0---------------------- -5-----5-----5---45----5--5----------- -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Over this little arrpegio is a 2nd guitar playing: -9-------7-------5------------------- There is one note per measure. -----9-------5----------------------- ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- The solo at the end is fairly easy too: |00-00-00-00-000-|00-00-00-00-000-| |45-55-55-55-555-|45-55-55-55-555-| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |00-00-0-0-0--0--|00-00-00-0--0---| |45-55-/12-12-12-|45-55-55-10-9---| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| *to 12th fret *to 10th fret |00-00-00-00-000-|00-00-00-00--0-0| |45-55-55-55-555-|45-55-55-59--9-9| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |00-00-00-00--0--0-|00-00-00-00-000-| |45-55-55-512-12-12|45-55-55-55-555-| |------------------|----------------| |------------------|----------------| |------------------|----------------| |------------------|----------------| |------------------|----------------| * slide to 12th fret A few more repeats of the above and then slight improv around: |00-00-00-00-0-0-|00-00-00-00-0-0-| |45-55-44-44-2-2-|45-55-44-44-2-2-| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| |----------------|----------------| Occassionally he lets the open B and E strings ring at the end of the phrase. The law of diminishing TAB kicks in here. Just use your ears, this should get you close enough. Enjoy and let me know if you need something that I missed (like I know I didn't notate the 2nd guitar part in a few places) Brandon Milner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: bmilner Subject: TAB - Monochrome I saw several people try and post TAB to monochrome and since I didn't agree with any of them I thought I would take a stab at it myself. They were close but both of them have the 2nd chord in the verse wrong, and they definitely have that last chord in the bridge wrong. So here is my version. Note, there are MANY guitar tracks on the CD (I mean like 2-3 acoustics and at least 2 electrics) so I tried to come up with parts that captured the essence of several parts at once :) Each dash is an eighth note... |2-------2-------|2-----0-0-------| |3-------3-------|3-----3-3-------| Here is the pattern for the verse. |2-------0-------|0-----0-0---!---| On the 2nd half of the 4th chord, |0-------2-------|0-----0-2-------| he emphasizes the open G string as |0-------2-------|X-----X-0-------| bass note. |X-------0-------|3-----3-X-------| |2-------0-------|2---4---3-2-5---| here's the chorus pattern. |3-------3-------|2---2---3-3-3---| Note the chords change twice |2-------0-------|2---2---0-0-0---| as fast toward the end of the phrase |4-------2-------|4---4---2-2-2---| |2-------2-------|4---4---2-2-0---| |X-------0-------|2---2---0-0-X---| |2-------0-------|2---0---3-2-----| |3-------3-------|2---3---3-3-----| |2-------0-------|2---0---0-0-----| |4-------2-------|4---2---0-0-----| |2-------2-------|4---2---X-X-----| |X-------0-------|2---0---3-3-----| |2-------2---5---|2-------2---3-56| the bridge goes something like |0-------3---3---|0-------3---3---| |0-------4---4---|0-------4---3---| |X-------4---4---|X-------4---0---| |3-------2---X---|3-------2---X---| |X-------X---X---|X-------X---X---| Cmaj9 Bm bm7 Cmaj9 Bm Gm/D Does that sound more correct? I understand the versions posted before were more simple on purpose but I thought I would go all out and try and write some of the passing chords in too. Brandon Milner bmilner@netcom(dot)com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Some very good links of Sundays fan sites i forgot to mention last time around: http://www.huan.com/sundays http://www.wintermute.co.uk/users/pingu/sunhome.htm A link to a review on Static & Silence (i hope this works): http://cgi.pathfinder.com/@@SvAziAYA4zgXGe7@/ew/review/archive/0,1683,14,00.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Thank you for reading this week's Arithmetic Extract ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ Extract compiled by Patrick Asselman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --=====================_880307496==_-- ========================================================================== This message was posted through the Stanford campus mailing list server. 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